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that will be most welcome by victims of hurricane sandy. we'll talk about the relief package. countdown clock continues to tick away, the debt ceiling approaching. lawmakers trying to hash out a deal and we'll take you back to d.c. for the very latest on what's going on behind the scenes. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. we were so blessed when we had triplets if by blessed you mean freaked out about money well we suddenly noticed that everything was getting more expensive so we switched to the bargain detergent but i found myself using three times more than you're supposed to and the clothes still weren't as clean as with tide. so we're back to tide. they're cuter in clean clothes. thanks honey yeah you suck at folding [ laughs ] [ female announcer ] one cap of tide gives you more cleaning power than 6 caps of the bargain brand. [ woman ] that's my tide, what's yours? than 6 caps of the bargain brand. well, if itmr. margin?margin. don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it take
in front of the bullets. what teacher at sandy hook or columbine wouldn't have even with a little bit of training, wouldn't have had a firearm rather than put themselves in front of the bullet. just the extra option. >> you've been offering gun training for a long time, i understand. are you surprised at all by the conflict in newtown? >> i was surprised, but it's completely understanda believe because people realize how vulnerable they are and what we need to be doing is projecting that position of security on our schools rather than projecting the vulnerability and what we have in the gun-free school zones right now is nothing, but an advertisement to the crazies out there that they're not going have any return fire. >> but clark, is it a good idea to have more guns in and around school? is it a good idea to do away with gun-free school zones. >> there are bad people with guns and good people with guns. who do you call when the shooter comes you call the good people with the guns and unfortunately they show up too late and our first response are the teachers and let's not disarm the
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